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		<title>By: caleb</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelkaulkin.com/sweeney-fatigue/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>caleb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a middle-aged composer, with conservatory training and a long checkered career.

I&#039;ve enjoyed recordings of the play, but heard only two versions, and never studied the score as you have.

I don&#039;t like singerly singers, and I love the effects of amplification--singers don&#039;t have to be belters any more.  This doesn&#039;t mean that anyone can sing:  Madonna always sounds bad, no matter what.  Sade, also.

Depp sounds pretty good,  Helen Bonham Carter a little weak, imo.

The focus remained on the music, the new orchestrations (? I&#039;m curious to what extent these are new) sound good to me, except some weirdness at the very beginning--where was 1 of the bar?--and the violence is contrived to be still cartoonish.  It&#039;s still pretty dark humor--the song Johanna (sp?) to the cutting of throats.

The original Sondheim music is so damn good that it still succeeds.  Tim Burton is an ok director for the project--his dark and twisted London present contrasted with the absurdly pretty memories of Todd work just fine.

I, too, would just as soon see a film of the stage play, with a tweaked recording, but I&#039;m obviously no purist:  The artifice makes nuances possible, Depp can do subtle things with his face, and his singing is good enough.   Art shouldn&#039;t be about muscles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a middle-aged composer, with conservatory training and a long checkered career.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enjoyed recordings of the play, but heard only two versions, and never studied the score as you have.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like singerly singers, and I love the effects of amplification&#8211;singers don&#8217;t have to be belters any more.  This doesn&#8217;t mean that anyone can sing:  Madonna always sounds bad, no matter what.  Sade, also.</p>
<p>Depp sounds pretty good,  Helen Bonham Carter a little weak, imo.</p>
<p>The focus remained on the music, the new orchestrations (? I&#8217;m curious to what extent these are new) sound good to me, except some weirdness at the very beginning&#8211;where was 1 of the bar?&#8211;and the violence is contrived to be still cartoonish.  It&#8217;s still pretty dark humor&#8211;the song Johanna (sp?) to the cutting of throats.</p>
<p>The original Sondheim music is so damn good that it still succeeds.  Tim Burton is an ok director for the project&#8211;his dark and twisted London present contrasted with the absurdly pretty memories of Todd work just fine.</p>
<p>I, too, would just as soon see a film of the stage play, with a tweaked recording, but I&#8217;m obviously no purist:  The artifice makes nuances possible, Depp can do subtle things with his face, and his singing is good enough.   Art shouldn&#8217;t be about muscles.</p>
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		<title>By: NMBioguy</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelkaulkin.com/sweeney-fatigue/#comment-199</link>
		<dc:creator>NMBioguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael---
I saw the movie the day it opened and I was rapt.  Now, remember, I met many of the cast members of the road production (the one from Philly in 1980-81) and I&#039;ve seen the original production, the tour, the NYC Opera version and, yes, even a community theater production.  In every case, I am blown away by the performances that are achieved by everyone, almost as though Sondheim wrote a piece that even some mediocre actors can transcend.  Put someone as powerful as Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter, and Alan Rickman all together and you&#039;ve got a moving piece of cinema, compounded with Tim Burton&#039;s direction and Oscar-worthy (and winning) art direction, there&#039;s something that just blows me away....

BTW, I&#039;m in Albuquerque, now---- see the web page :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8212;<br />
I saw the movie the day it opened and I was rapt.  Now, remember, I met many of the cast members of the road production (the one from Philly in 1980-81) and I&#8217;ve seen the original production, the tour, the NYC Opera version and, yes, even a community theater production.  In every case, I am blown away by the performances that are achieved by everyone, almost as though Sondheim wrote a piece that even some mediocre actors can transcend.  Put someone as powerful as Johnny Depp, Helena Bonham Carter, and Alan Rickman all together and you&#8217;ve got a moving piece of cinema, compounded with Tim Burton&#8217;s direction and Oscar-worthy (and winning) art direction, there&#8217;s something that just blows me away&#8230;.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m in Albuquerque, now&#8212;- see the web page <img src='http://www.michaelkaulkin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michael Kaulkin</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelkaulkin.com/sweeney-fatigue/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Kaulkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 01:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also hope that the film will generate curiosity among younger folks about Sondheim.

Since writing this post, I listened to some excerpts of the sountrack CD on Amazon.  Actually, I was really pleased to hear a child actor in the role of Toby, because he&#039;s supposed to be a child.  At least the film makes that clearer.  The orchestration was also interesting to me -- not as &quot;Hollywoodized&quot; as I&#039;d been led to think from the trailers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also hope that the film will generate curiosity among younger folks about Sondheim.</p>
<p>Since writing this post, I listened to some excerpts of the sountrack CD on Amazon.  Actually, I was really pleased to hear a child actor in the role of Toby, because he&#8217;s supposed to be a child.  At least the film makes that clearer.  The orchestration was also interesting to me &#8212; not as &#8220;Hollywoodized&#8221; as I&#8217;d been led to think from the trailers.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine Fine</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelkaulkin.com/sweeney-fatigue/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 19:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed the movie because of what it will most certainly do for a generation of young people who have little exposure to anything of any musical value in the mainstream cinema. My hope is that Sondheim will have a new following of young people.  Some of them might even set foot in a real theater one day.

I could not stand the gore, computer-generated as it was.  I hated having to close my eyes.  Still, I felt that as a film it worked well.  Having a boy soprano in there made the film a bit like &quot;Oliver,&quot; but he did have a lovely voice and good diction.

Nothing can ever compare to the original production I saw on Broadway in 1979.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the movie because of what it will most certainly do for a generation of young people who have little exposure to anything of any musical value in the mainstream cinema. My hope is that Sondheim will have a new following of young people.  Some of them might even set foot in a real theater one day.</p>
<p>I could not stand the gore, computer-generated as it was.  I hated having to close my eyes.  Still, I felt that as a film it worked well.  Having a boy soprano in there made the film a bit like &#8220;Oliver,&#8221; but he did have a lovely voice and good diction.</p>
<p>Nothing can ever compare to the original production I saw on Broadway in 1979.</p>
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		<title>By: patty</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelkaulkin.com/sweeney-fatigue/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did go see the movie yesterday. The more I think about it, the more underwhelmed I am. I&#039;m still glad I saw it, but it was not anywhere near as powerful as the stage production. The gore was cartoonish, but still horrifying enough to me that I couldn&#039;t watch it the whole time.

The singers needed to learn how to really SING ... not just try to be pretty voices. But oh well.

I&#039;ll be so curious to hear what you have to say about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did go see the movie yesterday. The more I think about it, the more underwhelmed I am. I&#8217;m still glad I saw it, but it was not anywhere near as powerful as the stage production. The gore was cartoonish, but still horrifying enough to me that I couldn&#8217;t watch it the whole time.</p>
<p>The singers needed to learn how to really SING &#8230; not just try to be pretty voices. But oh well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be so curious to hear what you have to say about it!</p>
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